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	<title>Comments on: Jon Arnold on why VoIP has succeeded</title>
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		<title>By: Luca Filigheddu</title>
		<link>http://www.techgenial.com/2007/03/jon-arnold-on-why-voip-has-succeeded.html/comment-page-1#comment-388</link>
		<dc:creator>Luca Filigheddu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, thank you very much for commenting!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Two more comments on my side: yes, here in italy and in other countries in Europe Skype means VoIP.. peer to peer is a concept still far from &quot;normal&quot; users.. Moreover, I agree that Skype and Vonage are much different. In my industry perspective during VON 2006 I had stated that, to me, Vonage is &quot;traditional telephony&quot;, since the user experience is exactly the same. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In conclusion, a lot of great points came out from this discussion that potentially could go forward again and again. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For the time being, thank you very much for your contribution!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, thank you very much for commenting!</p>
<p>Two more comments on my side: yes, here in italy and in other countries in Europe Skype means VoIP.. peer to peer is a concept still far from &#8220;normal&#8221; users.. Moreover, I agree that Skype and Vonage are much different. In my industry perspective during VON 2006 I had stated that, to me, Vonage is &#8220;traditional telephony&#8221;, since the user experience is exactly the same. </p>
<p>In conclusion, a lot of great points came out from this discussion that potentially could go forward again and again. </p>
<p>For the time being, thank you very much for your contribution!</p>
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		<title>By: Luca Filigheddu</title>
		<link>http://www.techgenial.com/2007/03/jon-arnold-on-why-voip-has-succeeded.html/comment-page-1#comment-10760</link>
		<dc:creator>Luca Filigheddu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, thank you very much for commenting!Two more comments on my side: yes, here in italy and in other countries in Europe Skype means VoIP.. peer to peer is a concept still far from &quot;normal&quot; users.. Moreover, I agree that Skype and Vonage are much different. In my industry perspective during VON 2006 I had stated that, to me, Vonage is &quot;traditional telephony&quot;, since the user experience is exactly the same. In conclusion, a lot of great points came out from this discussion that potentially could go forward again and again. For the time being, thank you very much for your contribution!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, thank you very much for commenting!Two more comments on my side: yes, here in italy and in other countries in Europe Skype means VoIP.. peer to peer is a concept still far from &#8220;normal&#8221; users.. Moreover, I agree that Skype and Vonage are much different. In my industry perspective during VON 2006 I had stated that, to me, Vonage is &#8220;traditional telephony&#8221;, since the user experience is exactly the same. In conclusion, a lot of great points came out from this discussion that potentially could go forward again and again. For the time being, thank you very much for your contribution!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Arnold</title>
		<link>http://www.techgenial.com/2007/03/jon-arnold-on-why-voip-has-succeeded.html/comment-page-1#comment-387</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Luca - been meaning to close the loop with you on this since last week - sorry for the delay.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for keeping this going, and I just wanted to add a couple of things.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;First - about Vonage being the Kleenex of VoIP - a term I coined a long time ago! Thanks for bringing a global perspective to my comment, but I still stand by it. When it comes to landline replacement service, the U.S. is by far the most important market for VoIP, and there&#039;s no doubt that Vonage is synonymous with VoIP in the U.S. Skype is far more widely used, but I don&#039;t think of them as VoIP, and I don&#039;t think most people do in general. You say that they do, and if that&#039;s true, I think they should stand corrected. Skype is about peer to peer, which happens to be VoIP, but it&#039;s really an Internet application, and not a phone service. Very different businesses, and I&#039;ve commented many times about how they&#039;re really apples and oranges. But I&#039;m a big fan - and user - of both!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Good points otherwise, in your post. However, I wouldn&#039;t equate email and VoIP for benchmarks of success. Email can function very well as a free service because it&#039;s easy to manage as an application. In its pure form, so is VoIP, but right now, providers need to find ways to make money with it, otherwise they won&#039;t be around much longer.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Lots to talk about here, but I&#039;ll stop now! Feel free to drop me a line to continue the discussion...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Luca &#8211; been meaning to close the loop with you on this since last week &#8211; sorry for the delay.</p>
<p>Thanks for keeping this going, and I just wanted to add a couple of things.</p>
<p>First &#8211; about Vonage being the Kleenex of VoIP &#8211; a term I coined a long time ago! Thanks for bringing a global perspective to my comment, but I still stand by it. When it comes to landline replacement service, the U.S. is by far the most important market for VoIP, and there&#8217;s no doubt that Vonage is synonymous with VoIP in the U.S. Skype is far more widely used, but I don&#8217;t think of them as VoIP, and I don&#8217;t think most people do in general. You say that they do, and if that&#8217;s true, I think they should stand corrected. Skype is about peer to peer, which happens to be VoIP, but it&#8217;s really an Internet application, and not a phone service. Very different businesses, and I&#8217;ve commented many times about how they&#8217;re really apples and oranges. But I&#8217;m a big fan &#8211; and user &#8211; of both!</p>
<p>Good points otherwise, in your post. However, I wouldn&#8217;t equate email and VoIP for benchmarks of success. Email can function very well as a free service because it&#8217;s easy to manage as an application. In its pure form, so is VoIP, but right now, providers need to find ways to make money with it, otherwise they won&#8217;t be around much longer.</p>
<p>Lots to talk about here, but I&#8217;ll stop now! Feel free to drop me a line to continue the discussion&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Arnold</title>
		<link>http://www.techgenial.com/2007/03/jon-arnold-on-why-voip-has-succeeded.html/comment-page-1#comment-10759</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Luca - been meaning to close the loop with you on this since last week - sorry for the delay.Thanks for keeping this going, and I just wanted to add a couple of things.First - about Vonage being the Kleenex of VoIP - a term I coined a long time ago! Thanks for bringing a global perspective to my comment, but I still stand by it. When it comes to landline replacement service, the U.S. is by far the most important market for VoIP, and there&#039;s no doubt that Vonage is synonymous with VoIP in the U.S. Skype is far more widely used, but I don&#039;t think of them as VoIP, and I don&#039;t think most people do in general. You say that they do, and if that&#039;s true, I think they should stand corrected. Skype is about peer to peer, which happens to be VoIP, but it&#039;s really an Internet application, and not a phone service. Very different businesses, and I&#039;ve commented many times about how they&#039;re really apples and oranges. But I&#039;m a big fan - and user - of both!Good points otherwise, in your post. However, I wouldn&#039;t equate email and VoIP for benchmarks of success. Email can function very well as a free service because it&#039;s easy to manage as an application. In its pure form, so is VoIP, but right now, providers need to find ways to make money with it, otherwise they won&#039;t be around much longer.Lots to talk about here, but I&#039;ll stop now! Feel free to drop me a line to continue the discussion...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Luca &#8211; been meaning to close the loop with you on this since last week &#8211; sorry for the delay.Thanks for keeping this going, and I just wanted to add a couple of things.First &#8211; about Vonage being the Kleenex of VoIP &#8211; a term I coined a long time ago! Thanks for bringing a global perspective to my comment, but I still stand by it. When it comes to landline replacement service, the U.S. is by far the most important market for VoIP, and there&#8217;s no doubt that Vonage is synonymous with VoIP in the U.S. Skype is far more widely used, but I don&#8217;t think of them as VoIP, and I don&#8217;t think most people do in general. You say that they do, and if that&#8217;s true, I think they should stand corrected. Skype is about peer to peer, which happens to be VoIP, but it&#8217;s really an Internet application, and not a phone service. Very different businesses, and I&#8217;ve commented many times about how they&#8217;re really apples and oranges. But I&#8217;m a big fan &#8211; and user &#8211; of both!Good points otherwise, in your post. However, I wouldn&#8217;t equate email and VoIP for benchmarks of success. Email can function very well as a free service because it&#8217;s easy to manage as an application. In its pure form, so is VoIP, but right now, providers need to find ways to make money with it, otherwise they won&#8217;t be around much longer.Lots to talk about here, but I&#8217;ll stop now! Feel free to drop me a line to continue the discussion&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Markus Goebel</title>
		<link>http://www.techgenial.com/2007/03/jon-arnold-on-why-voip-has-succeeded.html/comment-page-1#comment-352</link>
		<dc:creator>Markus Goebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 16:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am quite happy with what I have and don&#039;t need more. Voipstunt is not related to my DSL provider. I have to pay extra for DSL. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What I need from VoIP is a phone and an answering machine. Any special presence functions I don&#039;t need.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When I don&#039;t want to be contacted I tell my Fritz!Box FON ATA to forward all calls to voice mail. Voipstunt doesn&#039;t even give me voicemail, but I use Sipgate&#039;s free voicemail.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When I don&#039;t answer a call to one of my 10 VoIP numbers then Sipgate&#039;s voicemail answers and sends the left message as an email. When I don&#039;t want my phone to ring I send any call directly to Sipgate&#039;s voicemail.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I only use free VoIP services. Maybe I am the type of client that makes the old and new telcos cry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am quite happy with what I have and don&#8217;t need more. Voipstunt is not related to my DSL provider. I have to pay extra for DSL. </p>
<p>What I need from VoIP is a phone and an answering machine. Any special presence functions I don&#8217;t need.</p>
<p>When I don&#8217;t want to be contacted I tell my Fritz!Box FON ATA to forward all calls to voice mail. Voipstunt doesn&#8217;t even give me voicemail, but I use Sipgate&#8217;s free voicemail.</p>
<p>When I don&#8217;t answer a call to one of my 10 VoIP numbers then Sipgate&#8217;s voicemail answers and sends the left message as an email. When I don&#8217;t want my phone to ring I send any call directly to Sipgate&#8217;s voicemail.</p>
<p>I only use free VoIP services. Maybe I am the type of client that makes the old and new telcos cry.</p>
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		<title>By: Markus Goebel</title>
		<link>http://www.techgenial.com/2007/03/jon-arnold-on-why-voip-has-succeeded.html/comment-page-1#comment-10758</link>
		<dc:creator>Markus Goebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 16:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am quite happy with what I have and don&#039;t need more. Voipstunt is not related to my DSL provider. I have to pay extra for DSL. What I need from VoIP is a phone and an answering machine. Any special presence functions I don&#039;t need.When I don&#039;t want to be contacted I tell my Fritz!Box FON ATA to forward all calls to voice mail. Voipstunt doesn&#039;t even give me voicemail, but I use Sipgate&#039;s free voicemail.When I don&#039;t answer a call to one of my 10 VoIP numbers then Sipgate&#039;s voicemail answers and sends the left message as an email. When I don&#039;t want my phone to ring I send any call directly to Sipgate&#039;s voicemail.I only use free VoIP services. Maybe I am the type of client that makes the old and new telcos cry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am quite happy with what I have and don&#8217;t need more. Voipstunt is not related to my DSL provider. I have to pay extra for DSL. What I need from VoIP is a phone and an answering machine. Any special presence functions I don&#8217;t need.When I don&#8217;t want to be contacted I tell my Fritz!Box FON ATA to forward all calls to voice mail. Voipstunt doesn&#8217;t even give me voicemail, but I use Sipgate&#8217;s free voicemail.When I don&#8217;t answer a call to one of my 10 VoIP numbers then Sipgate&#8217;s voicemail answers and sends the left message as an email. When I don&#8217;t want my phone to ring I send any call directly to Sipgate&#8217;s voicemail.I only use free VoIP services. Maybe I am the type of client that makes the old and new telcos cry.</p>
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		<title>By: Luca Filigheddu</title>
		<link>http://www.techgenial.com/2007/03/jon-arnold-on-why-voip-has-succeeded.html/comment-page-1#comment-351</link>
		<dc:creator>Luca Filigheddu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 15:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, but you don&#039;t get more. Moreover, is Voipstunt related to your DSL provider ? Have you other services like presence, voicemail and so on ?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Naked &quot;voice&quot; is not enough. IMHO, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, but you don&#8217;t get more. Moreover, is Voipstunt related to your DSL provider ? Have you other services like presence, voicemail and so on ?</p>
<p>Naked &#8220;voice&#8221; is not enough. IMHO, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Luca Filigheddu</title>
		<link>http://www.techgenial.com/2007/03/jon-arnold-on-why-voip-has-succeeded.html/comment-page-1#comment-10757</link>
		<dc:creator>Luca Filigheddu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 15:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, but you don&#039;t get more. Moreover, is Voipstunt related to your DSL provider ? Have you other services like presence, voicemail and so on ?Naked &quot;voice&quot; is not enough. IMHO, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, but you don&#8217;t get more. Moreover, is Voipstunt related to your DSL provider ? Have you other services like presence, voicemail and so on ?Naked &#8220;voice&#8221; is not enough. IMHO, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Markus Goebel</title>
		<link>http://www.techgenial.com/2007/03/jon-arnold-on-why-voip-has-succeeded.html/comment-page-1#comment-350</link>
		<dc:creator>Markus Goebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 15:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Markus, I totally agree. But we are &lt;br/&gt;&gt; still far from the picture you are &lt;br/&gt;&gt; painting.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Are we really far from it? I am living it!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I pay about 3 dollars a month to Voipstunt for unlimited calls to Germany, where I live, the US and most important countries.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The rest is just plain internet access costs I would have paid anyway for surfing the net.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> Markus, I totally agree. But we are <br />> still far from the picture you are <br />> painting.</p>
<p>Are we really far from it? I am living it!</p>
<p>I pay about 3 dollars a month to Voipstunt for unlimited calls to Germany, where I live, the US and most important countries.</p>
<p>The rest is just plain internet access costs I would have paid anyway for surfing the net.</p>
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		<title>By: Markus Goebel</title>
		<link>http://www.techgenial.com/2007/03/jon-arnold-on-why-voip-has-succeeded.html/comment-page-1#comment-10756</link>
		<dc:creator>Markus Goebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 15:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Markus, I totally agree. But we are &gt; still far from the picture you are &gt; painting.Are we really far from it? I am living it!I pay about 3 dollars a month to Voipstunt for unlimited calls to Germany, where I live, the US and most important countries.The rest is just plain internet access costs I would have paid anyway for surfing the net.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Markus, I totally agree. But we are &gt; still far from the picture you are &gt; painting.Are we really far from it? I am living it!I pay about 3 dollars a month to Voipstunt for unlimited calls to Germany, where I live, the US and most important countries.The rest is just plain internet access costs I would have paid anyway for surfing the net.</p>
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